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Loving Your Lymph and Natural Breast Health with Joyce Sobotta

Meet Joyce Sobotta, a breast health educator, owner of Aromatherapy Nature’s Way, and creator of Healthy Girls Breast Oil. Joyce shares with us to the importance of a healthy lymphatic system and two techniques used for lymphatic massage.  She also introduces us to her signature product Healthy Girls Breast Oil and how it is used for natural breast health. To learn more visit AromaTherapyNaturesWay.com or call (715) 878-4474.

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[00:00:01.970] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Good morning and welcome to Green Tea Conversations, the show that delves into the pages of Natural Awakenings Magazine to bring you the local experts who share their progressive ideas and the latest information and insights needed so you can lead your best life. I'm your host, Candi Broeffle publisher, the Twin Cities edition of Natural Awakenings Magazine. And I'm honored to bring these guests to you. Our guest today is Joyce Sobotta, a breast health educator and ona owner of Aromatherapy Nature's Way. Thank you for being with us today, Joyce.
 
[00:00:34.860] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
Thank you very much for inviting me.
 
[00:00:37.390] - Candi Broeffle, Host
So as a health as a breast health educator, Joyce's work is endorsed by doctors and thermographs nationwide, and she has also facilitated breast health programs for leading health organizations, including the Susan G. Komen for the Cure, the Alzheimer's Association. In the male health system, Joyce is also a reflexologist, a Reiki practitioner, and an aromatherapist who has created Healthy Girls Breast Oil. Her signature product, this product, is carried in medical centers, pharmacies, thermography clinics, and natural food stores across the country. So, Joyce, like so many of our practitioners in the holistic health fields, your own journey includes a very personal story.
 
[00:01:22.310] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Will you please share with us what led you to create the Healthy Girls Breast oil?
 
[00:01:27.310] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
Sure. I'd be glad to my sister had a cancer, breast cancer. And in 2006, she was leaving this Earth. And she looked at me and said, Well, it was the evening all the family had gathered, and she looked at me and she said Joyce, can I come to your house? And, of course, with my Alzheimer's training, I knew that I needed to give her the confirmation that, yes, it was okay. I knew she wasn't going anywhere. But I said, yes, you can come to my house. I believe her spirit was looking for a place to go to do more work with Breast health.
 
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I believe that now at the time, I didn't know that, but she just smiled. And later on that evening, she passed. And the following year, a thermographer asked if I would create a breast oil. I was already using essential oils, you know, in making my own blends, breathe easy, pain begone. And I knew the effectiveness of essential oils. And so I said, oh, I'd love to. So I started researching which oils I would put into breast oil. And that's when I learned a lot about the lymphatic system, too.

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So it all kind of came together. And I created this in 2007, and I went to a friend and I said, Well, now what do we do? I have this product. I want to get it out to women. Actually, when I search which oils I would put in there, I found that there were studies done ten years earlier, like 97 through 99 that found delimiting in essential oils. Certain essential oils, like the citrus and frankincense that actually stopped and regress cancer. I mean, there were studies out there from the University of Wisconsin and University of Purdue.
 
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So I was so excited to get this product out there, took it to a friend, and she knew that we needed to do something with the limp. And we were looking for a lady. All the textbooks had men figures in them. But as the Universe Works book fell off her shelf and open to the page where there was an actual figure of a lady with breath. And then she had she knew a girl who could do a graphic with Lady Lymph. So that was the beginning of Lady Lymph.
 
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And we can talk about that another time. But I it needed to go together the healthy girls in breast oil and lady and Lymph lymphatic system.
 
[00:04:30.140] - Candi Broeffle, Host
So you said that you did a lot of research to see what would what would be most helpful within this oil.
 
[00:04:37.580] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
Right.
 
[00:04:38.590] - Candi Broeffle, Host
When I was looking at your website, you really use very high-quality therapeutic oils.
 
[00:04:47.270] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
Definitely. That's the only way to go.
 
[00:04:50.320] - Candi Broeffle, Host
And the main carrier oil is oil.
 
[00:04:56.290] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
No. When I started, it was combined some massage oils and evening Primera oil was in there. But then as I progressed with that, that was a short life span on the evening promos. So that was taken out. I also had excuse me. I also had Juniper in there, and I was told that Juniper is a pretty hot oil. We don't want to put that on our breath. So things changed as we progressed over years. I filled the bottles just one drop at a time and added love to each of the as I drop the drops into the bottle.
 
[00:05:42.520] - Candi Broeffle, Host
And we're going to talk about some of the different ingredients that are in there as well, and kind of why each of them are important into the blend. But when it comes to the jojoba oil, what in particular is it about that that works so well as a carrier. And when we talk about, first of all, let's talk about what a carrier oil is.
 
[00:06:03.940] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
Okay. Good idea. Because not everyone knows a carrier oil is I feel it's very important for a couple more than one reason. It is important to carry the oil across the essential oils across the body and down into the lymphatic into the bloodstream. Okay. That's where the oils are going to do the work. And we need a carrier that is anti-inflammatory. And it also works for everyone. So Jojoba oil is something like that. It can there's no nut oil, you know, like some people are allergic to nuts.
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And so I wanted something that would be very beneficial for all women and the anti-inflammatory part. And then it also absorbs very quickly. So many reasons to use Jojoba oil in there. And it's also a very light oil. Now that it's clarified jojoba oil. I tried the organic jojoba oil, but now that I, you know, improved it, it's very light and like a cosmetic oil that you would use on your face.
 
[00:07:21.900] - Candi Broeffle, Host
So it also adds vitamin E?
 
[00:07:25.240] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
Yes.
 
[00:07:28.300] - Candi Broeffle, Host
And so why is vitamin E important?
 
[00:07:32.320] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
Vitamin E is also for the health of all these issues.
 
[00:07:41.790] - Candi Broeffle, Host
And so again, I'm sorry. Repeat, for me, if you would. How long has it been that you have developed the oil?
 
[00:07:51.350] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
Well, I put it out in 2007, and at that time I was I had several massage oils, a variety, and I put those together. I mixed them up in a two-part picture, and then I would pour that into the bottle. And then I would drop the the essential oils in. But that was two years. And then it wasn't consistent. Once in a while, three drops went in instead of two. And that kind of thing. So then I went to I visited a gentleman Arita Oil in Iowa, and he told me he's the one who told me that Juniper was not a good choice and that we needed to change the evening Primrose oil.
 
[00:08:47.870] 
It was very good talking to him. He was the owner of the company. And then two years later, I didn't go with him. At that time, I was looking for someone to create the product. I didn't find a company at that time, but I did find a lady who had massage oils in gallons, and I ordered the gallon from her. That's when I use the organic jojoba oil. But it was heavy. So when I met the gentleman who who does the oil now plant Extracts International.
 
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When I met him, then he said it was kind of muddy. I said, Well, what do you mean? It's muddy. And he said, What's heavy? And it's the organic jojoba oil that makes it heavy. That's why we changed it to the clear clarified oil? Well, I don't know if I answered your question.
 
[00:09:44.800] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Yeah. So it's more light and light feeling and glide more easily. So it's been like twelve years since you've actually created the product and have some different iterations. As you've gotten along, one of the things that you talked about was the importance of Frankincense in the product?
 
[00:10:04.670] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
Right

[00:10:05.670] - Candi Broeffle, Host
What s it? That frankincense does.
 
[00:10:08.000] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
So frankincense also has delimiting. No one to stop and regress anyway, stop cancer or abnormal cells. I usually don't use the word cancer because I don't want the FDA coming after me. So cancer is abnormal cells. So I use the word abnormal cells on my website, and then it stops and regresses. Yeah.
 
[00:10:36.660] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Okay. And then it also has lemon and sweet Orange. What do lemon and Orange do?
 
[00:10:44.810] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
These are the citrus oils that have d-limonene. Orange is the one that I found the studies on that they had done. You can find those studies on PubMed and back to frankincense. It actually stops the metastasis. So using it, it doesn't move, like sometimes the doctors say, Well, it's going to go to the other breast. Not necessarily you know, you can use the Healthy girls and just do the lymphatic massage, and it doesn't have to metastasized to any place else.
 
[00:11:25.180] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Great. So when we come back, we're going to continue talking about some of the ingredients that you have in there, as well as we're going to get into why it's important to Love your Lymph for people who want to learn more or to order Healthy Girls Breast Oil, visit AromatherapyNature'sWay.com or you can call 715-878-4474. You're listening to Green Tea Conversations on AM950, the Progressive Voice of Minnesota. We will be right back.
 
[00:12:02.350] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Welcome back to Green Tea Conversations. Where we delve into the pages of Natural Awakenings magazine and talk to the professionals who share their expertise on natural health with you. I'm your host, Candi Broeffle. And today we're talking with Joyce Sobotta, a breast health educator, and owner of Aromatherapy Nature's Way. I'm so glad you're with us today, Joyce.
 
[00:12:24.350] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
And thank you very much for inviting me.

[00:12:26.500] - Candi Broeffle, Host
So just before the break, we were talking about your signature product, Healthy Girls breast Oil, in the ingredients that help to support good breast health. And there are several different essential oils that are included in the product, including lavender and neurolena, and also geranium. Geranium is getting a little bit more of a buzz nowadays. But why is it important for you to have geranium in the product?
 
[00:12:56.360] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
I believe Geranium is a woman's oil for the hormonal benefits, for the calling benefits. And it's a cell Regenerator. And also it is no one to geranium is known for the liver
 
[00:13:22.360] - Candi Broeffle, Host
discharge the toxins?
 
[00:13:23.370] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
Deliver to help deliver. Yes.
[00:13:27.230] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Okay. And then you also have marjoram.
 
[00:13:31.540] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest

Yes. I love that. When I found this one, as I was looking searching which oils I would put in, I saw Marjoram had a folklore that they called it Joy of the Mountains. Well, we have mountains big or small. We love them all. Our breasts can be called mountains. I thought that one. It was kind of a spice, the spice that we needed to add to this blend.
 
[00:13:59.680] - Candi Broeffle, Host
And it's also combing and relaxing.

[00:14:03.160] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
Yes, definitely. And for muscle aches and pains congestion.
 
[00:14:10.320] - Candi Broeffle, Host
And then finally, there is a rose yes.
 
[00:14:16.340] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
That offers the emotional balance and brings us the well-being and love to the body.
 
[00:14:23.950] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Excellent. So we're also going to talk about now that we've talked about the product we're also going to get into now about the lymphatic system and lymphatic massage in our next section. But in November 2018 issue of Natural Awakenings Twin Cities Magazine, you wrote an article called Love Your Lymph for a Healthy Immune System, in which you shared the importance of the lymphatic massage. So most of us have had the experience of going to the doctor. We're not feeling well, and they start to feel our neck to see if our glands are swollen.
 
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But most of us don't really understand how complex the lymphatic system is. Can you share with us just to start us off? What exactly the lymphatic system is?
 
[00:15:11.560] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
Yes. I'd love to. Now that I know about the lymph, I'd love to share what it is and how we can help the immune system by doing the massage, getting the lymph to move. And the lymph is actually the system in the body that helps the body detox. So what it is? It's fluid that lies right next to them. There's more fluid, actually than blood. It lies right next to the circulatory system. So as the little as the toxins from the blood sluff off and stuff off from the capillaries, the lymph is right there to pick it up.
 
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So there's actually a little they don't call them capillaries, but little limp vessels that line next to those blood capillaries. And they pick up those toxins, the debris, infections, bacteria, those things that we don't want in our body. And so they pick them up and through the filtering process of the nodes. First of all, there's the vessels, the larger vessels. And then they go through the nodes where they're filtered and through the thoracic system and the entire clean. All of that is part of the lymphatic system.
 
[00:16:40.800] 
And as that happens as it passes through there, it eventually does go back into the circulatory system, where it has already been cleansed. So very important system in the body. But it doesn't have a pump. So we need to massage it and move it. The limbs are arms and legs. And but there's so much lymph around the breast area, so much limp around the stomach area that doesn't really get movement. And I focus on telling women about the breast health and men. But because we wear a bra or many do and many are choosing now not to or learning about the lymp how important it is to massage, do a self-breast massage after removing the bra or wearing a camisole or that kind of thing.
 
[00:17:42.760] 
So your limbs can move all the time because if it doesn't move, it's going to get congested. And that's the first thing. And then it can cause the pain, tenderness. And oftentimes that is what women go to doctors because they've got pain in their breasts. But as Dr. Christine North Rep says, the pain, if there's pain, it probably is not a cancer. It just is congestion, probably from the lymph. So not being able to move. And so congestion, then when it's not moved, it can lead to other things, like lumps and bumps. Financially cancer. Yeah.
 
[00:18:30.980] - Candi Broeffle, Host
So when people have, like, a lot of women will have fibrocystic breast, is that also then just kind of a build-up of the lymph system, a build-up of that moving.
 
[00:18:43.920] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
I believe it is. I don't know if there's any words that say that fibrocystic press is that. But I believe that first that's my belief is that that is congestion a type of congestion of course, the younger the middle age. That's when the fiber cystic breast occurs, feels more often as we get older, maybe after the hormones have changed and then you don't have that so much. But during the hormonal changes in a woman's life, I think the cyber cystic breast is more common. And yes, to always, you know, do that lymphatic massage love your girls.
 
[00:19:29.040] 
Actually, the more that you move them, love them, the more pleasure that you have. You're doing the best you can for your breast.
 
[00:19:39.350] - Candi Broeffle, Host
And when should people start?
 
[00:19:41.100] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
I would say teenage years. So mom should be doing it themselves and then teach their girls their young girls teenage girls to start moving the lift and tell them the importance of it because they aren't going to hear it in school or from any doctor. Probably. So it would be good for the mothers to get educated and then tell the girls their young daughters.
 
[00:20:09.400] - Candi Broeffle, Host
So for those who want to learn more, you can visit AromatherapyNaturesWay.com or you can call Joyce at 715-878-4474. That's 715-878-4474. We're going to take a quick break. And when we come back, we're going to continue our conversation with Joyce, and she's going to share some of the techniques and tools that you can use for a healthy lymphatic system. To read Natural Awakenings magazine online, visit NaturalTwinCities.com. You can find a podcast of this show on AM950Radio.com on Google or Apple podcast or anywhere you get your podcasts.
 
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You're listening to Green Tea Conversations on AM950, the Progressive Voice of Minnesota. We will be right back.
 
[00:21:05.600] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Welcome back to Green Tea Conversations. Where we meet the professionals straight from the pages of Natural Awakenings magazine who share their expertise on natural health with you. I'm your host, Candi Broeffle. And today we're talking with Joyce Sobotta, a breast health educator, and owner of Aromatherapy Nature's Way. Joyce, you've been educating us on the Lymph system what the Lymph system is and why it's so important for our overall health. And you've also told us about your signature product, Healthy Girls Breast Oil, which is used in lymphatic massage, one of the techniques we are going to talk about now.
 
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So to begin with, why is lymphatic massage so important for good health?
 

[00:21:49.280] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
Okay. As I said before, the lymphatic system needs needs movement in order for it to be effective. And we need the lymphatic system to be effective because it helps us with the immune system. If a lymphatic is not working, then the immune system is down. Going down to there are different ways to do massage. There are some people who believe in the brushing for lymphatic, and there's a lot of information on the Internet about how to brush. And I've used the brush. I have a brush, but I again, I love to use my fingers.
 
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I love to use my hand. I love to feel the body. I love to give my body love and I feel, you know, using my hands just work better. So you're going to use a very light movement, as you would in a lymphatic brush. And we're going to just talk about breast massage now, but we need to open up. A nurse told me this. You need to open the lymph at the neck. So pulling again, it's a light movement. And you can use two or three fingers from the ears, from the jaw down to the clavicle to the collar bone.
 
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And then you're going to do that on both sides so you can use both hands and then several times, probably six to ten times. What you're doing here is opening the lymphatic system so it can go through the circulatory system. Okay. Very important to do this with any first before you start any lymphatic massage. Okay. And then across the next step is just behind the collarbone, and you go to about one-inch increments to the clavicle to the center and again, just gentle movements. Some people can actually feel the lymph beginning to move.
 
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Some sensitive people I know have said that they can actually feel to them, but even if you don't feel it's necessary to do this and then then you can start with the breast massage, but start under the arm first and again, two or three fingers all the way up into the armpit and you are stretching and releasing, and you can do that again six to ten times. If you feel pain tenderness under the arm, that is congestion. All you need to do is hold your fingers there.
 
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The lymph will get the idea you're talking to it and it will know that it needs to move and you can actually maybe feel it move you'll feel the pain, go away, continue to do that and on both sides, of course, and then take the best cup the breast in your hand, one hand and then with the other hand, gently move it towards the armpit toward the it doesn't matter which way. Actually. Don't get hung up on how you do this. These are instructions from Dr. Christine Northrop in her book When Women's Wisdom, Women's Body With Women's Wisdom. But anyway, she has these instructions. So you take the breast and you move it to the left. We can say toward the underarm and again six to ten times and then take the entire breast and move it gently again to the center and then a flat hand on the top up the breast, all the way up to the collarbone and do that again several times. Get all the way over to the shoulder and all the way up to them and several times and do that on both sides.
 
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Anyway, you can do one side at a time anyway, then go around the nipple, lots of limp around the nipple. So go with your fingers gently and stretching and releasing and then beep the Horn, which is just pressing in the center. And you can do that several times to feels good. And like I said, more pleasure. You have the better healthier giving your breast.
 
[00:26:30.750] - Candi Broeffle, Host
And you are using the carrier oil during this entire yes.
 
[00:26:37.080] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
Mention the healthy girls you put the healthy girls on. And some people I get when I do get a a call for a consultation, then I let people know that if you can't do the oil, you don't have the oil right now. I encourage them to get it because it has so many additional benefits. But if you can't use the oil, the lymphatic massage is so important. So start doing the lymphatic massage immediately right away. And you don't have to have. But it does give you a bonus when you have essential oils, right.
 
[00:27:15.650] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Because you have all the other essential oils that are in there. Is there a particular oil that would be good to use to help with a massage? In the meantime,
 
[00:27:26.450] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
Frankincense is always good again with the carrier, because again if you just put frankincense on, it doesn't go very far. That's the other reason you want a carrier is because it'll go farther, you know, with a carrier.
 
[00:27:42.480] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Right. And if they don't have jojoba, what would be another good ulterior?
 
[00:27:48.610] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
Another carrier could be almond oil. Could be

[00:27:56.820] - Candi Broeffle, Host
coconut oil.
 
[00:27:58.290] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
Great. Yes. Yes. Coconut very good fractionated coconut oil stays liquid, which makes it nice, but you could use just the warmth of your hands. You could use coconut pure coconut. Well, we also use just simply grape seed, grape seed oil, olive oil. Some people may not like the smell, but if that's what you have in your cupboard, use all of us.
 
[00:28:26.950] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Just get started
 
[00:28:28.020] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
to get started.
 
[00:28:29.200] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Don't worry about it being right right now. Just get started.
 
[00:28:32.590] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
And you don't need to even have a carrot. You don't need to have a all you need to do is as I was describing, I was doing the lymphatic massage, but you don't need to have an oil, so just know that.
 
[00:28:45.790] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Yeah. The important part is to start the oils, make it easier and make it a smoother motion. So how often should you conduct the massage?
 
[00:28:58.020] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
Well, if there's a concern, you want to do it at least two times a day. If you have the pain if you have or even a diagnosis or you've got something that's going on itself is going to say there's something going on on my breath. So start doing something and do it at least twice a day. And then as you, if you don't have a concern, then do it once a day, at least. You know and then again before I go to bed.
 
[00:29:39.080] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Okay. So you're really just listening to your intuition, listen to what it is telling you.
 
[00:29:44.420] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
Right.
 

[00:29:45.240] - Candi Broeffle, Host
So for people who want to receive, you actually have a free guide on your website, which is called Nine Easy Steps to Natural Breast Health, and what all is included in that free guide.
[00:29:59.960] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
Well, I believe there are nine steps, so I listed them. One is nutrition. You know, I can just go down the list. Nutrition and Water water is so important we don't get enough water. Most people don't drink enough water on half your body weight in ounces is a good guideline. Exercise and I like to put in there not just exercise, but the stretching, like the yoga and the Pilates and the dancing and the swimming and those kinds of things. Let's see, I don't have a list in front of me here.
 
[00:30:36.490] - Candi Broeffle, Host
But you also have the instructions to the South Massage. Yes. Illustration So if people can't remember what you just said and as you tried to talk us through it, they can download this packet and they'll have the instructions on there as well as a poster called The Lady Limp posters that really describes all the different Lymph systems and how it impacts.
 
[00:31:00.780] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
Right. Since the initial Lady Lymph, this one greatly improved because I put the education alongside of her before I had to talk at all.
 
[00:31:09.860] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Okay. So you also conduct workshops and speak to groups across the US. What are some of the topics that you talk about?

[00:31:18.520] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
Loving your girls, me, share your breasts, loving, you know, learning about the lymphatic system. Those are the two main ones and then listen to your heart. There's so much about emotions right now. So I really like to talk about emotions, how emotions play a big part of your breast health as well as your other immune health.

[00:31:49.760] - Candi Broeffle, Host
So let's talk about that a little bit in the in this month's issue of Natural Awakenings. So the May 2019 issue, you actually wrote an article called Honoring Your Emotions, and it really talks about how important honoring your emotions is to good health. And so why is it important? What is the connection between your emotional health and your physical health?
 
[00:32:15.520] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
Well, we need to. So everyone has emotions. So and neither none of them are good or bad. They are all giving us a message. So we need to get to a quiet place and figure out what that emotion is actually telling us. And I'm saying that because it's you know, if we just, for instance, anger or sadness or whatever it might be. So we need to figure out where is that coming from. But we can't do it when we're so busy on their phones and on the computer, we need to go to a quiet place and just ask ourselves and listen for the message and we will get that message.
 
[00:33:02.050] 
And then we can say, oh yeah, that makes sense because emotions are actually where the physical conditions start. I believe that very strongly, and the essential oils can help with clearing those emotions. And there are other techniques, many other techniques EFT being one of them but we need to get to that quiet place and figure out what is the emotion. Where is it coming from and then act on it and do something about it.
 
[00:33:34.140] - Candi Broeffle, Host
So great. Well, when we come back, we're going to continue our conversation with Joy Sobotta and learn more about the other services that she provides. For more information and to download your free package called Nine Easy Steps to Natural Breast Health, go to AromatherapyNaturesWay.Com. You are listening to Green Tea Conversations on Am 950, the Progressive Voice of Minnesota. To read an online edition of Natural Awakenings magazine, you can visit NaturalTwin Cities.Com. You can find a podcast of this show on Am950Radio.Com on Apple or Google podcasts or anywhere you get your podcast, we will be right back.
 
[00:34:26.420] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Welcome back to Green Tea Conversations. Where we delve into the pages of Natural Awakenings magazine and talk to the professionals who share their expertise on natural health with you. I'm your host, Candi Broeffle. And today we're talking with Joyce Sobotta, breast health educator, and owner of Aromatherapy Nature's Way. So just before the break, Joyce, you were sharing with us one of the techniques that can be used for doing a breath lymphatic massage. And there's actually another one that you have on your website as well. Another technique that's used for moving the lymph, which is called phluffing, and that's PH L-U-F-F-I-N-G phluffing. So what is this and how is it done?
 
[00:35:13.080] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
Okay. So when I started Way back when I had the essential oils, that is the technique that we used initially, phluffing is actually just bouncing your your breast up and down. Phluffing, you can take your bra straps. If you're wearing a bra, just lift them up and down that way, too. So I got this technique from Cheryl Chapman, a breast health educator. She's a holistic nurse from New Jersey. Thermographers were using her brochure for the phluffing technique when I first started with this, and so I wrote to her and I asked her if I could put healthy Girls breast oil on there along with because she said oil and she was using oil.
 
[00:36:02.910] 
Anyway, she allowed me to use her technique and add Healthy Girls breast oil information on her. So we use the phluffing technique from Cheryl Chapman to start with. Very easy to do.
 
[00:36:19.610] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Yeah.
 
[00:36:20.120] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
Any time.
 
[00:36:21.280] - Candi Broeffle, Host
It's a really easy technique and one that is equally as effective.
 
[00:36:25.800] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
Yes.

[00:36:27.290] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Now, one of the things that you offer offer clients or potential clients is what you call essentially for you, it's a consult or a free 15 minutes consultation for Natural Breast Health. What would people expect to get out of a session with you?
 
[00:36:45.050] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
Well, I encourage women if they have any questions to call me for this free consult, I can give you whatever your question is. I can give you information that you are on the right track because you made that initial call and you're letting me know that this is what I've done already. And most often, you are on the right track, and you're just needing a little bit more, or you need a confirmation that yes, I'm doing the right thing. So what else can they expect is maybe the technique of doing the lymphatic massage.
 
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Maybe they're asking around a surgery or something. Can I do the massage if I'm pregnant, can I do it? If can I do it? What if I have mastitis, all of those kinds of things. So these kinds of things I address and and let you know then I also have resources. It may be a diet that can can be a concern. This information, it comes to me. It feels like it's downloaded as I'm talking to the person. So what you're getting from through my mouth is actually guided and given to you through a higher source.
 
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That's what I believe. So encouraging you to do that free consultation. And you'll feel good about knowing that you're on the right track.
 
[00:38:21.590] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Now, the other thing is you have a lot of connections. So if there's something that you don't have information about, you can certainly kind of guide people to people who do correct.

[00:38:34.090] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
Yes, I do. And it's very beneficial that way.

[00:38:37.160] - Candi Broeffle, Host
And you you also work with a lot of thermographers.
 
[00:38:41.170] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
Yes, I do. Many thermographers are you carry the healthy girls breast oil in their business and offer it to the clients that come. And yes.
 
[00:38:58.480] - Candi Broeffle, Host

So one of the things that just kind of popped into my mind is maybe you can tell us where people can get healthy girls breast oil in the Twin Cities now, they can always order it off your website and have it shipped directly to their home. Do you also have stores in the Twin Cities that carry it?
 
[00:39:23.040] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
Now? Do Health. What is it called? Do has it, but otherwise, I don't have another store up there now, but thermographers that are in the cities, many of them carry it.
 
[00:39:40.560] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Okay. So probably the easiest way then would be for them to order it right online from you.
 
[00:39:47.020] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
Well, and they can look at my resource page on my website because I do have thermographers listed. I also have other health stores that have it. So if they're close by there, they certainly can get it that way. So they might look and see where where they can get it without ordering it.
 
[00:40:10.050] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Okay. So we've been talking a lot today about breast health and the products that every one product and techniques that people can use in order to have better breast health. But you also have other products for every pretty much everyone in the family, including a product called Healthy Guy Oil. What is Healthy Guy Oil?
 
[00:40:30.640] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
Well, I created that I had a healthy guy before, but that one went by the wayside, but I was really encouraged to created again. And so this is for I feel it's for again, the immune system, prostate respiratory congestion. And I know the very first question people ask on that. Where does he put it? Well, it's on the soft tissues. And that's kind of what the label says on soft tissues. But use your intuition again. Put it where where you feel it's necessary between in the growing area would be one, one suggestion, but it could be put on the bottom of the feet.
 
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The large ports on the bottom feet draw the oils up into the bloodstream and it'll go where it needs to go. So.
 
[00:41:22.540] - Candi Broeffle, Host
What is it about the product is that it helps to support?

Joyce Sobotta, Guest
There's Copaiba, frankincense, there's basil.
 
[00:41:34.130] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
There's lemon and Orange. Also in there again. And Marlena. So some in Hoba oil, as in the Healthy Girls carrier. So it's very, very beneficial and it doesn't have to be a guy. If you like the smell of basil and you know, like the property is Copaiba, it would be fine to use it as a woman too.
 
[00:42:01.820] -Candi Broeffle, Host
Okay, great. You also have another product that you use or you have several other products. But people can go to your store and just take a look and see all of the different products that you have, including other ones for immunity support and several other.
 
[00:42:21.560] - Joyce Sobotta, Guest
The one I'm really excited about now are the Mystics, and they are more energetic. I guess I might say those are definitely each of those were guided. Angelically inspired.
 
[00:42:39.590] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Great. Well, people can go to your website and really check those out. Thank you, Joyce, for being with us today and for generously sharing your expertise and knowledge. If you'd like to learn more or to sign up for a private consultation with Joyce, go to Aromatherapy Nature's way. Com or you can call 715-878-4474. Thank you for joining us today. As we awaken to natural health. You've been listening to Green Tea Com conversations on AM950, The Progressive Voice of Minnesota. And I'm wishing for you a lovely day!
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