Meet Mirtha Solis of Blue Lotus Training and Consulting in
Minneapolis is a transformational life coach who specializes in assisting
clients to unearth the root of their issues, thereby making long-term change.
Solis discusses what prompted her to become a life coach, NLP, and her
life-changing transformational life coaching certification program. To learn
more and sign up for the coaching certification program, visit
[00:00:19.520] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Good morning and welcome to Green Tea Conversations, the radio show that delves into the pages of Natural Awakenings magazine to bring you the experts who share their progressive ideas in the latest information in insights needed so you can lead your best life. I'm your host, Candi Broeffle, publisher of the Twin Cities edition of Natural Awakenings magazine, and I am honored to bring these experts to you today on our show. We have Mirtha Solis of Blue Lotus Training and Consulting right here in Minneapolis. Mirtha is a transformational life coach who specializes in assisting clients to get to the root of their issues and make profound, long lasting change.
Welcome to the show, Mirtha.
[00:01:01.410] - Mirtha Solis, Guest
Thank you so much, Candi. I so appreciate you having me on it.
[00:01:04.580] - Candi Broeffle, Host
We are glad to have you here today. So before we delve into everything that you do, I always like to ask people to just kind of introduce themselves to our listeners and share with us kind of your journey of what got you to where you are today. So what was it that prompted you to want to become a life coach?
[00:01:25.910] - Mirtha Solis, Guest
Well, originally, my degrees in training were as a therapist. I got my bachelor's in Psych, Masters in social work, and started working in the addictions field and worked in the addictions field for 15 years as a therapist, as an administrator with children, their families, adults, everybody, and anybody with addiction problems. And it was a very frustrating field because it was kind of doing the same thing louder, harder, faster, and sometimes with fewer resources. As the years went by. When managed care came along, they wanted us to condense treatment, make it into something it couldn't be done any faster.
And we had no other tools and and honestly, being trained as a therapist, I got a lot of information, great information about human dynamics, the mind, but no real tools to actually apply to help people change other than listening, reflecting, understand where they were coming from. And so from that and a personal experience with neuro-linguistic programming. Getting rid of a phobia I had. That's what sparked me to then become a coach and blend things from neuro-linguistic programming, hypnosis energy work. I particularly do rake and everything I picked up along the way and combine it to become a transformational life coach.
[00:02:57.660] - Candi Broeffle, Host
I think one of the questions that we get asked a lot is what is the difference between going to a life coach and going to a therapist?
[00:03:06.750] - Mirtha Solis, Guest
Yes, I get that phone call quite a bit from my perspective. Now, again, I haven't been in the site field in the social work field now for 25 years since I moved here to the Twin Cities, I've been doing strictly coaching. But the difference from my perspective is in therapy. We look at what's happening in the human psyche. And yes, if someone studies social systems, they might bring a little bit of the sociological cultural piece into it. But it's narrow. Psychology itself, in my opinion, is narrow.
It only has a certain piece of the human explained out. And with NLP Hypnosis, all the other things that I went on and studied after that, I have a toolbox, a hefty toolbox to help people change values, beliefs, emotions, decisions, and not just by talking about it, but actually making internal imagery and decisions about what they want to be, thinking about how they want to behave and being able to make concrete changes. So really going to the root of issues rather than just talking about them after a while, everybody knows why they have this issue and that issue.
But that doesn't mean it changes. You can talk with your friends at Infinite or your therapist about X, Y and Z, and that doesn't mean you're going to leave there changed. First you'll have insight, which is a large percentage of what's necessary to make a change, because if you don't know something's not right, then you're not going to know to change it. But then the practical tools is what comes into the coaching. So. Okay, how do I change this phobia I have. How do I change this belief that doesn't serve me like a common one?
Is people feel they're not good enough? Well, from an NLP perspective, that's a belief that might not even be the person. There might be a child observing a parent who feels that way and picks it up. And so it's not like there's no psychology in this. Of course, there is the to merge because NLP gives us a very vast and different understanding of the human mind and how it works, conscious, unconscious and higher conscious, and how to actually work with it in a way that we can replace what we would call the human software, what makes us repeat our patterns and do the same thing over and over that we don't want when we want it.
Then we call it excellence, and when we don't want it, we call it problems.
[00:05:40.820] - Candi Broeffle, Host
I like that. Actually, I've never heard that explained like that before.
So think about that. I mean, if you feel like I do my problems excellently, then you have a transferable skill. If you can do the problem excellently, you could do the solution. Excellent. And even consider this when a person needs to know the solution, the outcome to even know that they have a problem that they don't have it.
[00:06:06.640] - Candi Broeffle, Host
[00:06:07.420] - Mirtha Solis, Guest
So thinking about that. So the idea is the person already knows it's not right. And they already know whether they rather be. Then my job is to get them from point A to point B with what they have inside and around them. Of course, resources, internal and external.
[00:06:24.400] - Candi Broeffle, Host
As a coach myself, I don't have a background in therapy background in mental health, but there are a lot of coaches now that I see who have come from a background in mental health and in psychology or social work or that type of thing? What do you think it is about coaching? That really kind of interest people who have traditionally been in the mental health fields?
[00:06:53.100] - Mirtha Solis, Guest
That's a great question, because I have trained over the years, numerous therapist, even a psychiatrist, has come and taking my training medical doctors. I mean, I've had people from all walks of life stay home, parents, you name it. I've seen it landscape architect, people just wanting to change themselves and learn tools for helping others in whatever way. Business, personal, spiritual. It doesn't matter.
[00:07:20.270] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Can I just say that? I think that is amazing and so insightful of a landscape artist to say, I want to become a coach because when you're trying to help someone, that is a long-term relationship you have with the customer when you're working as a contractor, landscape artist. And there are so many things that you can help them with the tools that you gain as a coach in so many ways that you can make that relationship so much better and stronger and get your customer actually the outcome that they really want by knowing how to ask those questions.
[00:08:00.600] Mirtha Solis, Guest
Yes, how to speak their language. Ask the right questions, match up the product with the values in the sense of sales. You don't want to sell someone a car, they don't want. You want to sell them the car they want and everybody's happy. It's what they call the win-win in business. You got your car, the salesperson got their sale, everybody's happy and they get your referrals. If you're the salesperson and if you're the the customer, you go back and buy a car from that guy or Gal again.
The reason I think many therapists jump over probably similar to what I experienced, wanting more tools, wanting more, being able to bring in the metaphysical, the spiritual and not that in, let's say, in social work, we had BioCycle social information. So we looked at people's biology. We looked at the social environment around them. And then we also looked at their psyche. But NLP and transformational life coaching goes beyond that because we're combining all that. But we have something that therapists don't have. They've told me themselves.
I know myself. We're not giving practical, actual tools. Yes, there are some specialties in therapy you can go into, like play therapy or music therapy where then, of course, other things are brought in. But a straight, straight-line therapist wouldn't have those. I'm hoping someday more of this will be incorporated. And we can go lots of places with coaching or therapy. You have to stay also in the 50 minutes therapeutic hour.
[00:09:38.220] - Candi Broeffle, Host
[00:09:39.210] - Mirtha Solis, Guest
Which is incredibly frustrating as a practitioner. Imagine somebody is on the brink of like, who the biggest Ah their life and then suddenly times up. We'll pick up here next week. Oh, my God, I hate saying that. And I disliked hearing that when I was myself in therapy as a young person. And so in coaching, it's more expansive. I'll work with someone an hour and a half, 2 hours, maybe even two and a half, because if they're on the track, if things are clicking and they're ready to do releases, why would I cut them off and expect that we're going to be able to pause and pick up their persons lived another week or two.
They've changed already. They lost the groove that they were in in terms of making that change. So that's expansive. And honestly, the insurance thing for people in private practice is very challenging. Insurance companies turn back claims, and it's a big shenanigan that you have to go through. So there's practical reasons. And then there's obviously the more therapeutic reasons that I believe is why people go into coaching.
[00:10:51.460] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Yeah, they both have such good qualities about them. Therapy has great qualities about it as a coaching. But we know that all mental health professionals go into the profession because they want to help people, and this is another Avenue for them to be able to do that, too. So when we come back, we're going to continue our conversation with Mirtha and learn more about her programs and some of the other exciting things that she has coming up very soon. To learn more about the work Mirtha does, visit BlueLotusTraining.com
That's BlueLotusTraining.com to read the online version of Natural Awakenings magazine, visit NaturalTwincities.Com. You can find a podcast of this show on AM950Radio.com on Apple and Google podcasts in anywhere you get your podcast, you're listening to Green Tea Conversations on AM950, the Progressive Voice of Minnesota. And we will be right back.
[00:12:09.320] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Welcome back to Green Tea Conversations. I'm your host, Candi Broeffle, and we are welcoming transformational life coach Mirtha Solis of Blue Lotus Training and Consulting in Minneapolis.
So just before the break, you were starting to kind of tell us a bit about your journey and helping us to understand what life coaching is. And I know that you started as a life coach, and then that also kind of transpired into other things. So as a life coach, what was kind of your next part of your journey?
[00:12:43.490] - Mirtha Solis, Guest
Well, after deciding I didn't want to be in New York City anymore working with addictions and that lifestyle, which is very difficult and challenging and intense work 24/7. Myself and a colleague decided we had discovered all these other modalities and we wanted to leave New York and also start an Institute to train other people and what we were already doing and we loved it. And so we decided to start the Meta Institute in 1996, started in New York and then moved here shortly after and open our doors here 97.
And then there we taught NLP separate hypnosis, separate Reiki, separate all these separate certification programs and eventually realize, Wait a minute. People can't practice how we practice learning it this way, the way we learned it piecemeal. And so we decided to start what was then the therapeutic pushing program, which brought all these certifications together and then layered the information and the learning so that everyone could in a shorter amount of time, be able to do what we were doing. And I thought, wow, this is a great model to show people that maybe have different backgrounds that want to bring different toolboxes together in a really effective way.
And so then I own the Meta Institute for 21 years, decided I needed a mental and physical break from running a school, and decided I was going to just focus on my practice, write some books, and stop owning a school and doing all that. And then I was literally called regularly by people who had inquired about the program over the years and had never made it in. And they just were hounding me, literally hounding me, calling me every three months. So did you decide yet? Did you decide I'd be like, no.
And then finally, at one point I'm like, okay, I said, maybe I'll teach the course, but not for certification. Then I decided to open a school again. And there, as you know, Blue Lotus Training and Consulting. I opened in January of 2019 and called the class Transformational Life Coaching, and that's where I'm at now.
[00:15:02.610] - Candi Broeffle, Host
So tell us a little bit about what transformational life coaching is.
[00:15:07.860] - Mirtha Solis, Guest
Well, it is a modality that is a combination of other modalities and my own personal experience, knowledge, other training. For the last 40 years that I've been in the field of helping people. And these are things that have worked over and over again with clients, with students. I taught 26 or 27 certification courses before closing them at an Institute. And now November 6, I'm starting a new Transformational Life coaching program that will spend over 23 months, one weekend a month. And so that brings together neuro-linguistic programming, which is really the study of how the mind and language interact to produce behavior, how we code things in language, how we create the patterns in our mind, and then actually keep them there as neural networks that our brain follows like a groove in the ice in the winter, our tires fall in.
There we go, and we're on that track till we stop till it's over. Even when people say, I'm not going to do that, I don't want to do that. I can't eat Twinkies anymore. Somehow they find themselves eating Twinkies, nothing personal against Twinkies, but as an example. And so it also combines some hypnosis. And again, not what you see in the movies, but all hypnosis is self-hypnosis. So it's really about people exploring their unconscious mind, really being able to go deep inside themselves where I'm not the one doing it.
They're doing it. I'm guiding it. If you go to Paris and you go on a tour, you're going to experience what the tour guide tells you, but they don't know what you're experiencing inside, about what you see in Paris. So it's a very individual journey. And then I've taken stuff from the field of systems work, motivational, coaching. We work a lot with values, beliefs, emotions, decisions, fears, panic, anxiety, phobias. So anything that Ailes humanity and understanding that communication has to be good in here before it could be good out here.
And everything in our and our reality involves some level of communication, our body's communicating to us. Hey, you have to go to the bathroom. Hey, you have to eat. You have to drink water. We're communicating with our thoughts, our dreams, all that stuff. And then we're communicating out here. So imagine two people having a map of the world. And each map of the world around the world is like a fingerprint. No, two people have the same map. Now imagine being married 50 years. Your map is map her map, whoever.
And how do those two maps communicate without blaming, without judging, and without saying you have to do it my way. Isn't that what is wrong with the world in general? We all want our map imposed on someone else. And so really it's exploring what parts of the map aren't working for you and remapping it literally.
[00:18:24.080] - Candi Broeffle, Host
And this is why coaching is so important. I think it just helps us to be able to sync in a different way. It helps us to be able to really, you know when we say we want to see someone else's perspective, it really helps us to, first of all, understand our own perspective and why we have it and where it came from and then be able to say maybe that other person's perspective has also been developed similar to the way mine has. Maybe it's completely different to the way mine has doesn't mean it's right or wrong.
It just is this is just what it is at this point to us a little bit about the program that you have coming up in November, you are starting another coach certification program for Transformational Life Coaching.
[00:19:18.320] - Mirtha Solis, Guest
It's 23 months and we meet one weekend a month. It used to be three-day weekends, but too hard for people to take Fridays off. And you do get a little like fried in the brain. After three consecutive days of this kind of transformation, the class is very unique because it's all experiential everything I teach. I demonstrate and then the students practice immediately and get feedback from all the stuff that's there, including myself. That way we can tweak as we go before the cement drives. We want to make those adjustments.
And so by the end of the 23 months, students have a vast toolbox. They also have made incredible personal transformation because when you're trying on the processes and practicing with your partner, you're not roleplay. You're not using fake problems. Usually when we come up with fake problems, they're really ours in disguise. A friend of mine has this issue, but we can't work on somebody else's problem. If that was a case, boy, then I don't know. People like you and I would be millionaires would be helping people without them knowing and just cashing in on it.
[00:20:25.620] - Candi Broeffle, Host
You know, when we come back, I want to dive into this more and really talk about some of the different classes that people are going to go through, some of the different skills that they're going to learn. But for those who want to learn more about the work that Mirtha does and to register for the coach certification program, visit BlueLotusTraining.com. You're listening to Green Tea Conversations on AM950, the Progressive Voice of Minnesota, and we will be right back.
Welcome back to Green Tea Conversations I'm your host, Candi Broeffle. And today we're talking with Transformational Life Coach Mirtha Solis of Blue Lotus Training and Consulting right here in Minneapolis. So just for the brake, Mirtha, you were starting to tell us about your coaching certification program that you have, and you were kind of telling us a little bit about kind of touching on a few of the different topics that you cover in the program. Let's take a little bit deeper dive into neurolinguistic programming because I think that's something that makes your program really unique.
I haven't seen it in a lot of other programs. It tell us how NLP really can help people with maybe some of the different things that it does help people with help people to be able to overcome.
[00:22:03.160] - Mirtha Solis, Guest
Well NLP has a lot of unique qualities to it, but it studies subjective experience. So how do we create this map of the world that I mentioned before and how that interacts with other maps? So it involves communication. It involves visual calibration, auditory calibration, energetic calibration, in other words, measuring, noticing the differences that make the difference in how a person is speaking about the problem versus how they're speaking about the outcome. We can't talk with the same physiology when we're sad and happy. When we're sad, our body coils on itself.
When we're happy, we're generally our shoulders are expanded and we're looking up. Our voice goes up. And so we look at physiology. We look at patterns. I'm always looking for the pattern. What is the thread that connects all these issues? The person's having that? If I can pull that thread with them, all the issues are gone rather than having to go. One issue per issue per issue because things play out in lots of areas. So it's like if a bicycle wheel was the problem, do we want to take it apart spoke by spoke?
Or do we want to pop the hub and make the whole wheel collapse? And so NLP looks at issues that way. And then we learn about how to listen in language, for how the person is coding the problem and how to listen for all these internal filters that a person has inside of them operating values, beliefs, emotions, decisions, memories, language, upbringing, everything to understand how their map of the world is put together and then make the intervention in those deep spots so that the person doesn't have to manage a phobia or manage a fear or manage anxiety or manage negative beliefs.
They can just change them and then have the ones they prefer, which puts the person in charge of their bus. They're driving the bus. And in the program. We also have students after they've worked in class with each other and practice with each other. Then they also have to find at least four clients to work with outside of class, where they bring the whole process together and help that person with whatever issue that person present. So it's not like what we're teaching in class. This technique is good for beliefs.
Instead, the person is greeting the client and saying, how can I help you and then educating them and then helping them make that change? And then they submit that for evaluation and feedback from myself and the other instructors.
[00:24:45.060] - Candi Broeffle, Host
So you said the program is 23 week fun.
[00:24:49.290] - Mirtha Solis, Guest
23 weekends, 23 reasons, one weekend a month, basically.
[00:24:54.320] - Candi Broeffle, Host
And this is all in person.
[00:24:56.470] - Mirtha Solis, Guest
That is my hope is in November brings us we will see what November brings us. Actually, one of the reasons I pushed it out was to just give a little more time for things to show themselves.
[00:25:12.610] - Candi Broeffle, Host
[00:25:13.140] - Mirtha Solis, Guest
The last class I ran, I did do a few weekends on Zoom because we were in the middle of a class when the pandemic hit. So we continued on Zoom and then got a chance to finish in person, which was really nice.
[00:25:25.860] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Oh, good. So either way, you are going to have the program, it'll be just kind of decided which way you're going to go with it once, you know more in November. So there's 23 weekends that they do. And then it's like 500 hours of training in total. Correct?
[00:25:45.480] - Mirtha Solis, Guest
Yeah. About 350 kw in the classroom. And then the other 150 is assignments. And these case studies, seeing these clients for multiple sessions and writing them up and submitting them so I can get a bird's eye view because I can't sit in everybody's session and I don't want people recording. It's just too complicated. And then he teaches the student who how to write up the case and how to express what they're doing with the client. Then I read all of them and then the student receives written and verbal feedback.
So then when people graduate, the phenomena that happens with so many incredible courses is people finish and they don't know how to apply it. I don't know where to start. That happened to me. With all these courses I took, I was like, okay, I was a therapist. How do I make this transition? I don't know where to begin. Well, we teach all that in the class even how to do a thorough assessment to discover the map, that person's map of the world and having four cases before you graduate that you receive feedback on is fantastic, because no one can say I haven't seen a client yet.
A real client? No, you have. You've seen four, in fact. And you've seen your successes and you've seen the tweaks. And now it's easier to start that way when you have a template of okay, these are some of the important things to share with your client, and these are important questions to ask your client, and then the rest is unique to the individual. So it is not a cookie cutter program, which for some people, that's frustrating because they want to know, how do I work with a smoker?
Tell me what to do. There is no script for how to work with this type of issue or that type of issue, because every person is different.
[00:27:29.720] - Candi Broeffle, Host
[00:27:30.750] - Mirtha Solis, Guest
And how it's organized in their brain is completely different. And it's joining mind, body, spirit. So we're not just focused on the mind. We're focused on everything, including energy, because energy precedes everything. So it's all part of the package.
[00:27:47.600] - Candi Broeffle, Host
And there are so many different things. So we talked about NLP, you touched a bit on the hypnosis. And then what about systems theory? What is systems theory?
[00:28:02.720] - Mirtha Solis, Guest
So that's looking at all the systems that we're part of and that are part of us. So of course, we're not doing anatomy and physiology, but think of the human is a system already a system of systems. Even in our mind, we have the conscious mind, the unconscious mind, the higher conscious mind. So even that's a system, our body circulatory, respiratory endocrine, so on and so on. And so systems. Then we belong to a million, our family, our schooling, our spiritual or religious communities, our community, in general, our country, and so on.
And so on. If we belong to an organization that system now how do the systems interact with the other system? So it's taking what the students learn to do with individuals and now apply it to couples, families, organizations, and whatever other systems they choose to work with. So we talk about things like group process, the life of a group. So how do you run even the system of a classroom? How do you want a classroom for optimal learning and transformation and so on and so on?
So that's the piece of systems work. We also cover the applications of principles of quantum physics to language to help transform behavior that.
[00:29:21.310] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Help our listeners to understand what quantum physics is. If they have, they may have been able to hear it, but maybe not understand it.
[00:29:30.340] - Mirtha Solis, Guest
This is my tag. This is not. Please, whoever listens to this quote me on that. It is where science and spirituality meet. So it's looking beyond just the closed Sciences to more open, broader perspective. The more is going on, even in quantum physics, they prove that experimenters will get the results based on what they're looking for. So if you're looking to prove that light is a wave, you will see that. And you're looking to prove that light is a particle. You will see that, too, because it is both.
So it kind of expands things and then now applying some of those principles to language so language can break up its own box and help a person shift what they're saying in their head.
[00:30:19.540] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Well, we really need that right now. It does. It really does go to whatever we believe. Whatever we think is happening is what we are creating. That's why people can live in two different worlds. You and your spouse could have a completely different viewpoint about what's happening in the world today based on what what you're thinking about it. What are your emotions behind it? What are the fears that are coming into this?
[00:30:55.600] - Mirtha Solis, Guest
And when we don't know that Candi, what happens is we create judgment and when we have judgment and people get pissed off at each other and then we have a 50% divorce rate. However it is high these days, probably more since the pandemic. So there is a lot to be said about understanding our model of the world like you said earlier, so that we can then know where we end and others begin and what the difference is. And if we know that someone's different because that's just how they were built, we don't have to take personal the fact that they think differently than us.
There's nothing to do with us. The people were paying that much to you pay to see if we're paying attention to them.
[00:31:41.810] - Candi Broeffle, Host
I always remember that when I was in College, my psychology instructor explaining to us, people don't care about you as much as you think they do, you know. And that's why you have two teenagers getting ready for prom and the you know, the boy is cleaning his car and making sure you be shaved and clean instead. Good. And she is fixing her hair and doing her nails and doing everything, and then they see each other.
And they're both like, Why isn't that person saying to be great? I look, why isn't that person? Because people don't care about you as much as you think they do. We're thinking about ourselves, and it's just a human thing that we do exactly.
[00:32:23.130] - Mirtha Solis, Guest
When people say, Walk in someone's shoes, you can walk in their shoes. But you're only going to know how their shoes feel on your feet. You don't know how their shoes feel on their feet because it's not the same feet.
[00:32:33.500] - Candi Broeffle, Host
Yeah, I love that. I love that. So what do you think is the biggest takeaway that people get from your program?
[00:32:41.020] - Mirtha Solis, Guest
No one leaves a way they come in for the better. So the reason I use the tagline I do at Blue Lotus Blossom into your best self is because no matter what the student comes in, thinking they're there for they want to be certified to legitimize things they already know or learn other tools, or they're there for personal transformation. They leave with both. It's inevitable. If you allow the information to come in and try it on, your life will change. And then that's a ripple effect. If we change the whole mobile roofs and we affect the systems we're in, we affect our family, our partner, our children, our community, the place of employment, our customers, whatever it is.
And then that continues on and on. We don't even know how far that change will go. In the end.
[00:33:34.440] - Candi Broeffle, Host
It is. I love that blossom into your best self. So for people who want to learn more about the work that Mirtha does and to register for the coaching certification program, visit BlueLotusTraining.com. To read the online version of Natural Awakenings magazine, visit NaturalTwinCities.Com. You can find a podcast of this show on AM950Radio.com on Apple and Google podcast and anywhere you get your podcasts as you're listening to Green Tea Conversations on AM950 The Progressive Voice of Minnesota. And we will be right back.
Welcome back to Green Tea Conversations. I'm your host, Candi Broeffle, and today we're talking with Transformational Life coach Mirtha Solis, a Blue Lotus Training and Consulting in Minneapolis. So just before the break, you were telling us about the program and giving us some ideas of some of the things that people learn when they go come into it. So one of the things that I think we like to know is especially as adult learners who maybe haven't been in the classroom for a long time, give us an idea of what it's like the first day coming into the coaching program.
[00:34:59.480] - Mirtha Solis, Guest
That's a very important question, because I do get people from age 18 to 70 something taking this course and people come in like you said, with anxieties about oh, my God, I haven't taken a test in 40 years or 20 years or ten years, and I wasn't a good student and so really trying to teach them about learning styles. I use all the learning styles in class, visual, auditory, and experiential. The hands on the kinesthetic 40% of the learners out there in the world are kinesthetic learners, the hands on people.
So imagine as we get up in regular education, higher education, there's less and less hands on and more and more lecture or videos or whatever we're doing these days in classrooms. I want people to use all of their senses when they're in class. So really lighting up all the senses, even things as using colored markers to right on the board so that it's lighting up the chakras, it's lighting up the neurology, it's using right brain and left brain. So we're learning on a multi dimensional level rather than just a linear level, like memorizing facts.
This is not a memorization course. Yes, you will have to remember some terminology, but it's really how do you apply everything and put it together and helping the adult learner know that they're going to trust their unconscious mind, which is the one that's really learning. We think we learn with our conscious mind. We learn with our unconscious mind. We're learning things even when we don't know. We're learning them unconsciously. No one. It's a child in a classroom says, no, this is how you talk. And this is how you walk.
They learn through experience. They babble, they copy mom and dad, they stand up, they fall down, we clap and they're happy. And they keep trying to then master walking and then running. And so adults think, hey, just because you're an expert at a million things doesn't mean that when you hear something new, you're not kind of at the bottom of the scale of being. Oh, I don't know about this. I don't expect people to come in knowing everything. They're there to learn. Otherwise, why would they take the course?
That would be silly just to hang out with me? That'd be fun, but not necessary. There's no way.
[00:37:16.880] - Candi Broeffle, Host
It really is true, though. I mean, I think especially as an adult, we want to put on this persona that we have the answers or we know the answers to it. And when we can let that go and be able to be open to the process of learning, it's just so much more beneficial. And if somebody who I was an adult learner, I went back to College as an adult. So I was almost 30 when I went back to College, and it was the most enlightening thing I've ever done.
I wouldn't have had that same experience had I done it at 18. It just wasn't the same time time in my life. So I highly recommend people like we said before at the beginning of the show, there's so many things that you can use life coaching skills or beyond actually starting your own business and becoming a life coach, it can make you a better leader. It can make you a better business owner. It can make you a better mom or a better dad or a better community member.
Whatever the case might be. So it really is for anyone who is interested in learning some new skills and learning some new ways to be.
[00:38:26.650] - Mirtha Solis, Guest
Exactly exactly where there's humans and there's communication. The skills apply better at anything, even sales, anything, and not to be like a shady salesperson like fast talker. Not that kind of stuff. It has to be genuine. Has to be ethical with integrity. This is not about manipulating people. There are places and people who use NLP as a tool to manipulate or be shady with stuff. This is not this class. Believe me, if you've ever heard of that type of NLP, that is not what I teach. People are a choice. It's challenged by choice. If they want to practice something and learn it and experience it, and if they don't, then no one is pushed to be somewhere they're not ready to be.
And the adult learner. Once the adult learner realizes they're using their whole mind to learn, then it opens up a whole other world and people realize, oh, my God, I do know what's going on. I do see what what I learned in the class. I saw it in my kids today, or I saw it at work with a coworker. And it's powerful because we learned to read people and not read them to invade their Privacy.
But read them to understand them better because he he doesn't want to be understood.
[00:39:47.420] - Candi Broeffle, Host
And to be more empathetic to be able to understand another person's perspective, like you said, not to manipulate them, but to be able to understand why they may be approaching you in the way that that they're approaching you or something may be happening that's making you uncomfortable. And then you can say, Well, now why is this making me uncomfortable, too? You know, one of the things I always laugh about when I was going through my coaching certification myself, I had said to the person who was training us over the period of time, I said, I am so sick of thinking about myself.
I mean, honestly, I'm so sick of the sick of thinking about why I'm thinking about what I'm thinking about. But it really does help.
[00:40:35.000] - Mirtha Solis, Guest
And NLP has often been referred to as the how-to psychology. You know, psychology ask a lot of why, why, why, and why is a dangerous word, because when you ask why you build roots that ground people deeper into what they're answering the why for. So if we're asking, Why are you depressed? We're grounding that depression as the person answers it, they're grounding it. Instead of NLP, we ask what, how how are you doing? That not why. Why gives us the motivation behind something, but it doesn't tell us how it's put together, which means that we don't know how to take it apart.
So for people who want to really delve in and begin to learn about themselves and have an incredible experience, I just highly highly recommend looking at your program and joining you in November. Do you have a start date?
Yes. November 6 and seven will be our first weekend. I have the schedule for the next two years. I even have backup weekends in case of Minnesota winter. All those things I think about scheduling and or pandemics things of that nature, and the schedule is available, and I have a description of the program. I can email people, and certainly, I always like to have students meet with me so that we can see if it's a good match. I don't want someone spending money on a course that's not for them Candi, selfishly want students that are motivated and want to be in the course.
So be sure to check that out if you're interested in learning more about what Mirhta does or if you would like to sign up for the coaching certification program. That website is BlueLotusTraining.com. Thank you, Mirtha, for being with us today. We sure appreciate your time.
Thank you, Candi, for doing this amazing show that is bringing lots of information to people.
And thank you for joining our conversation today as we awaken to natural health to learn how your business can be featured on an upcoming episode of Green Tea Conversations, call 763-270-8604. Again, that number is 763-270-8604. You're listening to Green Tea Conversations on AM950 the Progressive voice of Minnesota, and I wishing you a lovely day!